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- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V94 #386
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- Ham-Policy Digest Mon, 22 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 386
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- Today's Topics:
- CW ...IS NOW!
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- Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 04:33:00 EST
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!wariat.org!amcomp!dan@ames.arpa
- Subject: CW ...IS NOW!
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
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- Peter Coffee WA2OJL/AE <72631.113@CompuServe.COM> writes:
-
- >I know quite a bit about packet communications, thank you very much.
- >My current class of license requires a written exam covering a variety
- >of advanced modes as well as a code exam at 20 wpm. I don't currently
- >operate digital modes because I don't have the money for additional
- >equipment, but I accept the requirement for knowledge of those modes
- >in support of 97.1(b), "advancement of the radio art." Would that those
- >who oppose the code requirement, due to lack of interest in operating
- >with that mode, could be equally accepting of its place in carrying out
- >the purposes of the amateur radio service.
-
- Really, the VE test you took required a pass/fail element on digital? When
- was this? Or do you mean you tested on ALL other modes in ONE test and the
- 20 WPM in a separately graded element? Please do not equate EQUAL with a
- separate pass/fail arguenment.
-
- >I did not introduce the subject of "preserving the history of radio,"
- >which your message seems to suggest I did. Speaking of straw men.
- >CW is not history: to those doing EME and other state-of-the-art modes
- >that happen to work with weak signals, CW is now.
-
- Yes, and we see the commercial world FLOCKING to it in droves. (Manual
- decoded morse is what I assume you mean by CW.) However, this debate has
- never been about 'CW The Mode' it is and always has been about 'CW The
- TEST'. The straw man in constant use (and you used it) is to attempt to
- justify a pass/fail manual morse decoding element because 'CW is THE
- mode', it is not. It is A mode. It may even be a usefull/fun/enjoyable/
- weak signal mode. It is not the end all to radio. It does not deserve the
- place it now has in the testing structure.
-
- >And I'm sorry I got into this discussion, because it seems to me that
- >the time spent replying to these messages with increasingly nasty personal
- >comments could better be spent in acquiring useful skills. I have nothing
- >further to add.
-
- I could say 'We knew you had nothing further to add because you are stuck
- in the past with manual morse decoded signal detection', but I won't.
-
- You ASSUME that these discussions are not 'usefull skills' and that
- learning manual morse decoding is a 'usefull skill'. Well, Sir, the rest
- of the world (non-amateur) disagrees with you. I know MANY people engaged
- in professional communications, NONE are currently using manual morse (or
- any kind of morse). True, some shiping interests currently us it, but that
- is being replaced.
-
- Your attitide of 'better spent' and like comments are as much a 'personal
- attack' as any that have been made requarding you, to someone who has NO
- desire to do manual morse decoding.
-
- Being a policy news group, IMHO, this would not be an appropriate place
- to discuss the relative value of one mode over another on pure
- engineering grounds. The .misc group or another, more specialized group
- would be better for that. The issue here is (or should be) TESTING
- REQUIREMENTS, not mode value nor popluarity. There is no test for FM which
- is the single most popular mode (followed by SSB), there should not be a
- pass/fail test for manual morse decoding.
-
- Dan N8PKV
- --
- "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
- safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
-
- - Misspelled? Impossible, my modem is error correcting!
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